31 July 2011

The first week home

Today sloan smiled at me multiple times. It wasn't gas. Probably a reflex but she has a huge smile like her momma.
She hardly cries. And if she does, it isn't for very long.
She sleeps a ton which I'm certain is normal though Rick is very concerned. Despite experience i don't think he can remember having an infant bc the last two kids I'm sure he was busy entertaining the older ones.
I'm not sure if the crying is coming or I'm just very lucky. Sort of makes me ready to quit while I'm ahead :) I could stare at her all day!

Weight after last appt on thursday was 7lbs 4oz. We have our wellness checkup on Tuesday morning and she is expected to have gained her birth weight. Only five days and five ounces to gain!
We are off the bottle of breast milk and exclusively breast feeding. I think she's getting fatter but we'll just have to wait until Tuesday.

What's new?
We bought a house!!!!! Doubled our living space. I will post pics when we move in on my birthday. Moving will be tough with a six week old baby, but fortunately we have very few things. My mother in law is coming this week and will help me pack up part of the house.
Unless something falls through on the sale of my place, here is sloan's new home that rick and I will Also get to live in..

We are all very excited!!

24 July 2011

The past three days

We've been to the doc and labs every day this weekend (fri sat sun). We received a biliblanket yesterday.

Bilirubin measures for jaundice. Since I'm o+ blood type and rick is A+, Sloan is A+. My liver has been filtering for her and now hers has to mature and filter for herself. The transition because of the mismatch can be rough. At least that's what I'm told is the likely cause. Either way, she should be leveling out now.

Additionally, Sloan lost 10% of her birth weight - so per doctors orders, I'm pumping and supplementing her feedings with an additional ounce of my milk AFTER I'm done nursing her. So far so good.

Today sloan's weight was up two ounces and her bilirubin levels are dropping so we will be going off the blanket tomorrow afternoon and testing her levels again on Tuesday morning and another weigh in.

I'm grateful we get tomorrow off to stay home and hopefully she will be done with her "sick visits" to the doc after Tuesday.

Tonight we gave Sloan her first bath since being home from the hospital. I am working hard to eat healthy and often and Sloan is too. I'm glad mom has been here to cook for me. She leaves tomorrow but I am looking forward to some time alone to sleep and nurse.

Sloan and I are exhausted and working hard to get where we need to be. often I'm done nursing and then I pump and lay down but then she's ready to nurse again.
Last Night I netted three hours of sleep. Today I finally managed two naps.

I love my baby girl so much. She is worth it, but this is really tough!

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23 July 2011

A Story of Sloan's Arrival!

Even as i begin to type this I am tearing up. It has been an emotional season in my life.

I have so much to be grateful for. My baby girl is the biggest blessing of them all. But i will get back to her in a minute. Let me try to be chronological in my update.

On Monday night, July 18th, I got a phone call around 8pm from the hospital L&D. They aren't ready for me yet. Apparently a lot of women were going into labor in this miserable heat and there wasn't a bed for me yet. So they said they would call again later. Originally i was expecting a call between 5 and 7 pm. My finally counter-offer was accepted, my house had sold and I spent the latter part of Monday walking through houses that were potential homes for us. Despite my health being at risk, I knew I was headed into the hospital soon.  I think the walking helped.

Just as I was stepping out of the shower, around 10pm, we finally got the phone call - "We have a room for you, Please come in" So we packed up our stuff and left. Mom was already here so she was holding down the fort.

I arrive and we are immediately put into our room. They set me up on an IV and a fetal monitor and the doctor came in. Since I was worried about the comment the doctor made to me about having a c-section if my cervix was not cooperative ( since i was neither dilated or effaced), I spent the days between my appointment working on changing that. I ate spicy food to the point of stomach ache, I used the natural cervix ripening method (aka semen) to my advantage, I went in for massage on my labor trigger points, and I spent that day prior to entering the hospital walking around houses, none smaller than 2500 sqft. So When the doctor checked me, I was happy (no ELATED) to hear that I was 1 cm dilated and 70% effaced. Had I not been scheduled for induction, Sloan would probably made her appearance by the weekend anyways.

The original plan was cervidil, but since I was 70% effaced (Effacement is the thinning of the cervix, the cervix has to both THIN and SPREAD (dilate) ), Cervidil would have been silly b/c i was already effaced, so they went with a more natural approach, a FOLEY BULB. Which is basically this "thing" they put inside your cervix and fill it with sterile water that will fall out once you get to 3cm.  So then basically I just went to bed. Rick was snoring his cute little head off and I was left to my contractions. I had contractions all night. I wasn't on any drugs, just a natural method to try to get you to dilate on your  own.

About 5:45am the nurse came in and started a low dose of pitocin. She then readjusted the foley bulb to make sure it was in there good. An hour later she came back and said she needed to readjust it again. I asked to use the restroom first, and as i stood up, it fell out.

The doctor came in to check me, clearly I was at least 3cm. No, I was 4cm. Rick was downstairs getting breakfast. She said effacement was the same, but I was 4cm dilated, and she was going to break my water. I was nervous but said ok. She broke my water and it was so weird. This flush of warm water flowing out of me. I sent my mom and doula a txt, i think it was time for them to come it. It was about 830am. Contractions started picking up, I was still on a lower dose of pitocin. The pain was maneagable. Here is where things get a little fuzzy. They checked me around 10am and I was only 5cm dilated BUT i was 100% effaced. The contractions were getting stronger and I started having trouble breathing. They were about 90 seconds apart but my BP was very high. The nurse kept trying to get me to breathe b/c my BP was going up so high and I was hyperventilating.  I tried to push through it but at some point I was panicing. I was having double peaking contractions and I was bawling b/c the pain was so bad and I just could not breathe.  I got to the point where I asked for an epidural but as the guy came in the contractions were one on top of another and I could literally feel the head pressing down. I wanted them to check me before they gave me the epidural but at that point i was exhausted from the lack of oxygen to my body and I took it. I know I wanted to go all natural and I tried really hard. I am not sure how i feel about this right now. Am i a failure for not being able to push through it even with pitocin induced labor? I dont' know. I suspect that around 1045am, the time I took the epidural, I was 10cm dilated BUT I needed to calm down. So I took it. I was able to gather myself and I was still feeling this pressure so finally I asked the nurse to have the doctor come check me. The nurse really wanted to check me but I wanted the doctor to do it so i waited until 12pm to get checked again. In the meantime I was able to regain some energy, drink some ginger ale and ice, and enjoy the moment. 

At noon the doc comes in and checks me, Yup, i was 10cm dilated, it was time to push. I told her, I can feel the head. I think she is coming fast, the nurse (not my fav person) was like honey this can take hours, I blew her off. The doc leaves and they get me ready for pushing, legs on stirrups, and we talk about how i am to push. Yeah Yeah I get it. To me it seems intuitive on how to push through my vagina. Just a hunch. So we get ready, At 12:24 I push once and guess what?? The nurse is like OH the baby has crowned. 

HUH? so i was right. yup. One count them ONE push and the head came out. I reached down to feel her soft head. It was so weird and I made mom look. The nurse presses her button and calls the doctor in. So in the meantime I have to breathe through these contractions (which was MUCH easier with the epidural) and just wait for the doctor. Four minutes later the doctor comes in to ease this baby out. So I push three more times. We did this to prevent the amount of perineal tearing. (which was NONE :)
So finally SLOAN comes out. What a relief. It felt so great when she came out. Her one hand was reaching up near her face, her other hand was (GET THIS) pulling on her umbilical cord. She wanted to bring it with her. What other toys did she have. When she did that I tore a little inside the vaginal wall but nothing to cry about. What a blessing!!! by 12:34PM After 10 minutes of pushing (4-6 of which were spent waiting for the doc to get in and set up) I had my precious baby girl!

I was a little disappointed that I took the epidural. I really wanted to go all natural, and I firmly believe that Sloan was ready to come out right then and there, but i was able to enjoy pushing her out, I was able to enjoy the final moments before she arrived, and now it is all in the past. I love her so much i cannot explain this overwhelming love I have for her that only another woman who has labored and brought life can understand. She is precious and grows more and more beautiful every day. I look forward to our future together!

Our first family photo a few hours later

Just before we left the hospital on Thursday

We have had a lot of scares and struggles since coming into the world. Please keep Sloan in your prayers and I will try to update very soon. At first she had trouble clearing her lungs and turned purple a few times, fotunately I caught her and all is well, her Xrays (yes baby had xrays prior to being a day old) look fine.  Now she is struggling with elevated Bilirubin levels and her weight loss has been a bit much, so we are driving to the doctor and hospital every day for weigh ins and blood work. Today we get a "bili blanket" and will go back to the hospital in the morning for more blood draws and another weigh in. I am exhausted and stressed and we are in record heat levels around here. This has been quite taxing on me and my body and I am grateful that my mother has been here to feed me and keep up the house this week. I am looking forward to a week alone with Sloan where we can focus on sleeping and eating only but that is so far away right now. I am frustrated and scared and while I know that everything will be ok, this has been so emotional and I just hope that we get through this part soon so we can enjoy being home and together.

Sloan has dimples in both her cheeks, so far her eyes are VERY blue, and she has very long fingers and toes. The hair on top her head is blond and the sides of her head are light brown. Her lips are full like her momma and she is the sweetest baby I know (so far). Keep us in your prayers. WE have not had a full day home since we left the hospital and we just want to be home to rest. Fortunately my milk has come in as of yesterday so her weight should be picking up soon.

18 July 2011

37 weeks and that is all she wrote!

SIZE of Miss Beeman:

our baby is now considered "full term," even though my due date is three weeks away. If i go into labor now, her lungs will likely be mature enough to fully adjust to life outside the womb. (Some babies need a bit more time, though. So if you're planning to have a repeat c-section, for example, your practitioner will schedule it for no earlier than 39 weeks unless there's a medical reason to intervene earlier.)
Your baby weighs 6 1/3 pounds and measures a bit over 19 inches, head to heel (like a stalk of Swiss chard). Many babies have a full head of hair at birth, with locks from 1/2 inch to 1 1/2 inches long. But don't be surprised if your baby's hair isn't the same color as yours. Dark-haired couples are sometimes thrown for a loop when their children come out as blonds or redheads, and fair-haired couples have been surprised by Elvis look-alikes. And then, of course, some babies sport only peach fuzz.

We will know tomorrow what her actual size is!!!!!!

Biggest challenges:  

Oh man! I can't wait to feel better. Might be a while but its on the horizon now!

a precious little girl!

She is moving fine but things are tight in there.

I slept great the past few nights. Last night was the LAST night alone, in our bed, baby free.

What I Miss
I sort of had a moment of "freak out" last night. I am going to miss it being just rick, myself, and the dogs. Bittersweet!

What i LOVE
I love that i'm about to meet my baby girl. My life seems to be falling into place nicely. God sure does have a sense of humor (See Milestones)

I cried last night. a LOT is happening all at once and now there is no time left. This is it!

Last night I got a phone call. Someone is making an offer on my house! ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? We actually never took it off the market b/c we were getting too many showings. So we did weekend showings  only so that Rick would be there to help. We had 4 scheduled showings this weekend.  My mom said, as soon as we set up the nursery, you'll get an offer. Guess what?

We set up the nursery on Saturday. (we meaning my mom, dad and husband) I rested, delegated (bossed is more like it). Sunday Rick and i dropped the dogs off at the groomer and drove to see Harry Potter at the IMAX in 3D! (we are season pass holders) I think it is important to see the number one box office hit for the day your baby is born b/c trust me- nothing will outgross this film by Tuesday! It was awesome> we watched the entire series. (ok i did) Rick watched the last two.

anyways, we will know soon enough if they accept our counter offer. They wanted to close by Aug 19th but since i'll be in the hospital for the next few days, i can't go find a house and make an offer. We countered with Aug 29th (my birthday!!) and we shall see what they come back at us with. I pray it goes through but if not, we love our house and will keep on with whatever.

Talk about timing. God has a sense of humor doesn't he?
not only do i have to go have a baby tonight/tomorrow. I also have to find a house and get my offer accepted and loan approved. Fortunately my lender has been in my life for five years now and is a great person to work with. He is up to date on the situation and will gladly get this moving for us!

here's a pic of the crib. Not done yet

11 July 2011

36 weeks!

This will be my next to last blog concerning the pregnancy in weeks. Today I went to the doctor and got sent back to the Hospital for monitoring. I will be induced next week. They will call me in the morning to set up the time. I am nervous. I hadn't planned this but as i said before, you set a plan in place and you prepare to be flexible. I tested Strep B positive so I will be getting an IV in labor anyways to protect the baby. This is standard practice. Since I took 12 weeks of Bradley Birth Method classes with Laura Conrad (a great teacher whom i highly recommend), I know a LOT about what is going to happen to me. Once we set my induction date, I will check in the night before and they will insert Cervidil into my cervix. I will go to sleep (in the hospital) and in the morning i will wake up and they will begin administering Pitocin.  The cervidil should begin to soften and dilate my cervix and the the pitocin will bring on contractions and continue the job. I am extremely nervous and am not sure how this will affect my plan to go without the epidural but we shall see. At least the baby will be smaller and not tear me up as much :) one can hope.

SIZE of Miss Beeman:

My baby is still packing on the pounds — at the rate of about an ounce a day. She now weighs almost 6 pounds (like a crenshaw melon) and is more than 18 1/2 inches long. She's shedding most of the downy covering of hair that covered her body as well as the vernix caseosa, the waxy substance that covered and protected her skin during her nine-month amniotic bath. Your baby swallows both of these substances, along with other secretions, resulting in a blackish mixture, called meconium, will form the contents of her first bowel movement.

Biggest challenges:  
right now the biggest challenge is being on bed rest and keeping my BP down. I can end up in the hospital any minute having a seizure or a stroke and then the only relief is to perform a c-section to get the baby out. The only cure for pre-eclampsia is child birth. Rick has to stay close by because at any minute if my BP shoots up i'm back in the hospital. Apparently pre-eclampsia is pretty serious. My doctors are not taking this lightly and they sure aren't playing around. So that is what i will call Worst Case Scenario. WCS is that I end up blacking out in a pile of mess and have to be rushed to the hospital. Clearly Rick is taking care of me and keeping an eye on me to make sure that this doesn't happen.  I was hospitalized on Thursday to Saturday and again today (Monday). I gotta stay outta there for one more week!

I want to be able to walk/run/do stuff.

A little girl whom i will get to hold in a little over a week unless Worst Case happens and then it will be very very soon!

she is still moving a lot though has very little room. She is moving against my bladder a lot and i often feel afraid i'll pee my pants. So far so good

I am actually sleeping great! Maybe because i see the end is near.

What I Miss
Still that feeling in the tips of my fingers. I miss it so! i think i'm going to miss feeling her move in my belly! i don't miss it yet.

What i LOVE
I love that by the end of next week at the latest I will be holding my daughter in my arms! I just pray her lungs are developed enough to breathe on her own and that she has enough body fat to regulate her temperature!  I love feeling her inside of me these last few moments knowing it is all about to end. I love how everyone is taking care of me and treating me well. 

Up and down. I'm excited but nervous. I think mostly excited though. I KNEW i wasn't going to make it 40 weeks but i had NO idea that it would happen like this.

A due date to be set tomorrow morning!!!!

09 July 2011

PRE-E... am i or aren't i?

Well, that didn't last long. They ran some tests on me on Wednesday and called me on Thursday morning and asked that I call back. Usually if "all is well" the nurse will leave a message and say just that. But they didn't. She asked me to call back. So i went to get my BP tested at work, it was fine, and then I called the nurse. She told me that it was necessary for me to collect a 24 hour urine sample so that they can assess my condition better but they suspected I had mild pre-eclampsia. The thing I have learned about pre-eclampsia is that it doesn't go away, it either remains the same or gets worse. The nurse asked me to come in and pick up this jug and instructions before the end of the day.

I went to grab lunch to bring to my desk and my coworker Bruce came by to let me borrow his BP machine and show me how to use it. I started feeling funny and i tried it out, My BP was 140/100, I tried again, 140/99. Was i using the machine right? Crap this was high. Didn't the doc say something about "over 90"? i tried a few more times and eventually it went down to a diastolic BP of 90-ish, So i calmly finished a document I was working on for my maternity leave, packed up my office for the long haul, and drove to my OB to collect my jug. I decided that while there I would have them check my BP and make sure that I wasn't doing something wrong. I sat down and it was131/91. Things weren't much better using their machine, so i found the nurse who was giving me my jug as i began sweating... literally. The room was getting hot. They took me back to another room to hook me up to a fetal monitor to perform a NST or non-stress test on the baby. Basically just to monitor her heart. She sounded great. I had to sit there for about 20 minutes while they recorded the beats. Eventually the nurse was satisfied and the doctor came in to speak to me. Dr. Inge (he is great). He talked to me about my condition and bascially told me that he was probably not going to let me get past 37 weeks and will likely induce me at that point. He mentioned putting me in the hospital to monitor me while i collected my urine sample, but decided to let me go home instead... that is until about 30 minutes later. I get the phone call.

First it was another nurse relaying information from Dr. Inge. He decided that I needed to check myself into L&D (labor and delivery) for 24 hours so that they can monitor me. Did i need to go right away? No, i could go home and collect some things and then come in. Do they have TV and DVD? (our tour of the women's center is scheduled for Monday) Yes they do. Do I need to pack a bag? Yes. we are not sure how long we will keep you or if we will induce labor so please come prepared.

Nothing like getting a call from a nurse telling you to go to the hospital. But at least she was calm about it and I was able to go home first.  A few minutes later, I get another phone call, this time from Dr. Inge himself. He wanted to explain to me why he changed his mind. He wanted to apologize in case he alarmed me, and mostly, he wanted me to know that once i left, he just got to thinking about it and just had a feeling that he needed to have me watched closely. He told me he didnt' want to drop the ball in my 35 weeks of pregnancy and let something bad happen and felt that he should be conservative in his approach. I was totally fine with this and I really felt well taken care of that he actually called me himself. He definitely went above and beyond and I appreciate that.

This is becoming a long narrative so i'll try to make it quick. I went home. Packed (mostly was done packing anyways), fixed spaghetti for Rick and the kids (my step sons are here until the 16th), and after dinner I went to the hospital. Checked in. Got situated. Monitored the baby and me for a while. Moved me from L&D to post-partum for my overnight stay, began my urine collection. BP was staying in a lower range again. Rick left for the night, I went to sleep. In the morning, Rick came and we went to get an ultrasound to make sure Sloan was ok. She was laying on her right side, her left hand was in her mouth, and her right hand was playing with her toes. She was so precious in there! Amniotic fluid looks great, she is practicing her breathing, her heart is beautiful, the placenta looks great, all in all, baby is growing and developing beautifully. She is now in the 58% where as 3 weeks ago she was at 63%. She is estimated at 6lbs and 10 ounces! HOLY  MOLY i am growing a roly poly.  But seriously, she looks great, her weight is excellent, and I am practically 36 weeks. The concern with pre-eclampsia is that the baby gets in distress and quits growing. Not the case here.

After the UltraSound we meet with the physician (not from my practice) who talks to me about the results. She said that all in all, i am not pre-eclampsic but only having gestational hypertension. I can go back to work (but take it easy) and go swim, etc etc just nothing crazy, no exercise. Basically take it easy but i'm good to go. She said of course you will stay and finish your 24 hour monitoring, but i don't expect to see any protein in your urine and I'm sure you will be fine. And now she is telling me that they wont' let me go past 40 weeks but will likely let me get close to my due date.

I get wheeled back to my room and we hang out all day. Rick stayed with me most of the day. I was tired, he was tired, and before lunchtime, the first jug was full. (had I gone home I would not have known what to do b/c they only give you one) The nurse went and got me another. Fast Forward, I filled up TWO and half of a THIRD jug. When the tech went to the lab to get the third jug, the lab was like, "ARE YOU SERIOUS" I guess i'm the first person in history to fill up more than one jug, and while it is possible that someone has filled up a first and began a second, I filled up 7500ML in 24 hours. They wont' forget me. The doctors were proud and said they got a great sample and my kidneys are working great. Which is a good sign.

The collection was completed at 945pm, and then it was sit and wait. We were told because I was likely not going to have any issues, that once we got the results, i'd be discharged, but we had to wait for the results.  About 11/1130, i get a knock on the door. The nurse comes in to let me know the news. She looks sad, "You have a good amount of protein in your urine, i'm sorry"  What does this mean I ask. She said, well we  are likely to keep you overnight. She leaves, I cry. Not like boohoo but like tears of frustration and I just want to go home. While I dont mind hospitals, I prefer my bed and my house. Who doesn't? It is a nice place but it is no Ritz Carlton, though I must say I made friends with my nurses and techs and they want to see me when i come back to have the baby. but i'm getting ahead of myself, where was i? oh yes.

We are waiting on the doctor to come in and tell me her take on the results. Dr. T. was on call on Thursday.  Dr. W was on call on Friday, so she comes in about 15 minutes later and tells me the same as the nurse EXCEPT, she says i can go home! I have pre-eclampsia, but my BP is remaining solid and my organs look great, and the baby looks beautiful, so here is my option. I am high risk the remainder of my pregnancy. I will go to the doctor two times a week and they will do NST each visit. If i progress worse, they will likely induce once I hit 37 weeks (only a week away) and they may or may not hospitalize me. For now it is sit and wait. She went over the signs i need to watch for. I need to monitor my BP every day. And I am on bed rest. Now I can go to the fridge and get a snack or fix a fast meal. I am not completely bedridden (yet) BUT i cannot cook, clean, shop, etc etc... They will likely not let me get past 39 weeks but we will target around 38. However, at this point, its anyones guess because one bad reading lands me back in the hospital and they could take her then.

So i'm getting numbers all over the place but the conclusion is, i will have a baby in July rather than August unless i go to the first or second of August, but i'm expecting to be induced the week of the 24th.  Today is my Papaw's birthday and while i'd love to have this baby in the next hour and a half, its not going to happen, but i love him for hoping! :) Sloan needs to grow another week and a half and then I am hoping that while i'll be induced, I can manage the pain and keep my BP low enough to have her vaginally and without pain medication.

I knew i was going to have her early. I just didn't expect EARLY to happen overnight! Stay tuned, at this point, its anyones guess. 

06 July 2011

35 weeks... will we make it to 40?

SIZE of Miss Beeman:

My baby doesn't have much room to maneuver now that she's over 18 inches long and tips the scales at 5 1/4 pounds (pick up a honeydew melon). Because it's so snug in my womb, she isn't likely to be doing somersaults anymore, but the number of times she kicks should remain about the same. Her kidneys are fully developed now, and her liver can process some waste products. Most of her basic physical 
development is now complete — she'll spend the next few weeks putting on weight.

Biggest challenges:  
Most of you that follow me on facebook know that I have been on bedrest the past week. Last week my swelling got worse and worse and then i decided I better call the doctor. This was last Tuesday. The advice nurse told me to go home and lay down all evening until bed. My swelling didn't improve. So she had me stay home all wednesday morning and check again. I was still pitting and the swelling had not improved so they asked me to come in. I had gained about five pounds in a week (water weight the doc said) and my normally solid 117/70 BP had shot up to 139/85. She put me on bedrest to see if a week off my feet and doing little to nothing would resolve my issues.
Today i went back to the doctor, my weight dropped back down a little (oh i'm still holding plenty of water though), but my BP is now 142/85, and this is AFTER a week of inactivity and rest. I am not dilated yet so that is ok but i'm ready to get the show on the road. Now i'm back to work BUT i am on watch and I have to take it easy at home. I have to see the nurse at the Health Care Center at work the next two days to check my BP. If it escalates to something over 90 then the doc said that they'll have to bring me in ASAP to take the baby. Hopefully if this happens then I will be able to still deliver vaginally. I really don't want to have a c-section, but all in all, healthy mom / healthy baby is the goal.  I am trying to finish up projects for my coworkers to take so that I can go into labor knowing my ducks are in a row. I would have blogged last week while on rest but my fingers are numb from all the swelling.

Childbirth and relief!

A little girl!

Very active. I can feel her a lot stronger b/c she has no room to run away!

I am sleeping decent.  I think i go to the bathroom once or twice. 

What I Miss
 I miss my gallon sized bladder and being able to feel the tips of my fingers, It is amazing how useful the feeling at the tips of your hands really can be. I didn't realize.

What i LOVE
My massage therapist has been such a blessing to me! She has kept me as comfortable as can be. I see her once a week but lately i'm going in more often for some hand and foot work. Rick has been helping with my hands. They are not as bad in the afternoon but in the morning i cannot straighten my fingers. I wonder if this is what arthritis feels like.

I am seeing the light at the end of the tunnel! Its almost over. My mom and dad are coming to town on the 16th or 17th to help put the nursery together and mom and I will go pick up last minute items for baby. I hope i make it until then!!!

My hospital bag is packed!! I have three outfits for baby in case she's super small or big - i guess timing is a key factor here... It won't be long!